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	<title>Comments on: Ruby on Rails, Passenger (ModRails) vs CodeIgniter and Kohana</title>
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	<description>From beta to world-beater...</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mikemike</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondcoding.com/2008/05/26/ruby-on-rails-passenger-modrails-vs-codeigniter-and-kohana/#comment-299</link>
		<dc:creator>mikemike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL, you get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, you get it.</p>
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		<title>By: mikemike</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondcoding.com/2008/05/26/ruby-on-rails-passenger-modrails-vs-codeigniter-and-kohana/#comment-298</link>
		<dc:creator>mikemike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, it didn't let me post my PHP code lol let's try this again.

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For people who don't like PHP because of the ugly syntax, hows this:

&#62;?php if($something == $somethingelse): ?&#60;

    $something equals $somethingelse&#62;/p&#60;

&#62;?php endif ?&#60;

no echo statement, no nothing. Just as easy as that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, it didn&#8217;t let me post my PHP code lol let&#8217;s try this again.</p>
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<p>For people who don&#8217;t like PHP because of the ugly syntax, hows this:</p>
<p>&gt;?php if($something == $somethingelse): ?&lt;</p>
<p>    $something equals $somethingelse&gt;/p&lt;</p>
<p>&gt;?php endif ?&lt;</p>
<p>no echo statement, no nothing. Just as easy as that.</p>
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		<title>By: mikemike</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondcoding.com/2008/05/26/ruby-on-rails-passenger-modrails-vs-codeigniter-and-kohana/#comment-297</link>
		<dc:creator>mikemike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CodeIgniter is better. It runs very fast, you don't have to use an ORM or even a full model if you don't want to. It's not preloaded with every upgrade that you don't need. It's easy as hell to upgrade and add extensions. In fact you just drop in a file and call it like any other library class. CODEIGNITER RUNS MEGA FASTER THAN RAILS AND DOESN'T REQUIRE EXPENSIVE HOSTING.

For people who don't like PHP because of the ugly syntax, hows this:



    $something equals $somethingelse



no echo statement, no nothing. Just as easy as that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CodeIgniter is better. It runs very fast, you don&#8217;t have to use an ORM or even a full model if you don&#8217;t want to. It&#8217;s not preloaded with every upgrade that you don&#8217;t need. It&#8217;s easy as hell to upgrade and add extensions. In fact you just drop in a file and call it like any other library class. CODEIGNITER RUNS MEGA FASTER THAN RAILS AND DOESN&#8217;T REQUIRE EXPENSIVE HOSTING.</p>
<p>For people who don&#8217;t like PHP because of the ugly syntax, hows this:</p>
<p>    $something equals $somethingelse</p>
<p>no echo statement, no nothing. Just as easy as that.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivo Jansch</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondcoding.com/2008/05/26/ruby-on-rails-passenger-modrails-vs-codeigniter-and-kohana/#comment-221</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivo Jansch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 17:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benchmarking hello world is not very useful for 2 reasons:

 - You're not using any of the real world features of any of these
   frameworks, so you're basically just benchmarking the default
   include overhead.

 - Most frameworks are targeted at reducing development time, not
   improving performance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benchmarking hello world is not very useful for 2 reasons:</p>
<p> - You&#8217;re not using any of the real world features of any of these<br />
   frameworks, so you&#8217;re basically just benchmarking the default<br />
   include overhead.</p>
<p> - Most frameworks are targeted at reducing development time, not<br />
   improving performance.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Wu&#8217;s Blog: Ruby on Rails, Passenger (ModRails) vs CodeIgniter and Kohana (Benchmarks) &#124; Development Blog With Code Updates : Developercast.com</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondcoding.com/2008/05/26/ruby-on-rails-passenger-modrails-vs-codeigniter-and-kohana/#comment-223</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Wu&#8217;s Blog: Ruby on Rails, Passenger (ModRails) vs CodeIgniter and Kohana (Benchmarks) &#124; Development Blog With Code Updates : Developercast.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 16:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] his ThisLab blog, Fred Wu has posted some quick benchmarks comparing some of the popular frameworks out there - Ruby on Rails/Passenger versus [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] his ThisLab blog, Fred Wu has posted some quick benchmarks comparing some of the popular frameworks out there - Ruby on Rails/Passenger versus [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Wu</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondcoding.com/2008/05/26/ruby-on-rails-passenger-modrails-vs-codeigniter-and-kohana/#comment-222</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Wu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 18:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, similar to most of the benchmarks out there, it was only a simple Hello World test. I posted these results because I was surprised at the performance of Rails. I always assumed that CodeIgniter or other lightweight frameworks would perform faster. I am planning to do some more thorough benchmarking though, perhaps to build a real world application in two branches, one with CodeIgniter or Kohana, one with Rails. I am sure that will satisfy many of you. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, similar to most of the benchmarks out there, it was only a simple Hello World test. I posted these results because I was surprised at the performance of Rails. I always assumed that CodeIgniter or other lightweight frameworks would perform faster. I am planning to do some more thorough benchmarking though, perhaps to build a real world application in two branches, one with CodeIgniter or Kohana, one with Rails. I am sure that will satisfy many of you. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Kimsal</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondcoding.com/2008/05/26/ruby-on-rails-passenger-modrails-vs-codeigniter-and-kohana/#comment-224</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Kimsal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 16:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What was the benchmark app doing?  Hello World or something more?  Also, CodeIgniter's 'efficient'?  Not sure about that - perhaps relative to some other big name frameworks which are wholly unoptimized for performance it is.  Is that what you meant?  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What was the benchmark app doing?  Hello World or something more?  Also, CodeIgniter&#8217;s &#8216;efficient&#8217;?  Not sure about that - perhaps relative to some other big name frameworks which are wholly unoptimized for performance it is.  Is that what you meant?  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Web 2.0 Announcer</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondcoding.com/2008/05/26/ruby-on-rails-passenger-modrails-vs-codeigniter-and-kohana/#comment-220</link>
		<dc:creator>Web 2.0 Announcer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 09:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Ruby on Rails, Passenger (ModRails) vs CodeIgniter and Kohana...&lt;/strong&gt;

[...]Today, when someone was asking on a forum about the efficiency of web frameworks, I thought I’d give the few frameworks I work with some more benchmark testing.&#38;#xD;
&#38;#xD;
So I went ahead and benchmarked CodeIgniter, Kohana and Rails, ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Ruby on Rails, Passenger (ModRails) vs CodeIgniter and Kohana&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>[...]Today, when someone was asking on a forum about the efficiency of web frameworks, I thought I’d give the few frameworks I work with some more benchmark testing.&amp;#xD;<br />
&amp;#xD;<br />
So I went ahead and benchmarked CodeIgniter, Kohana and Rails, &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Gregoire</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondcoding.com/2008/05/26/ruby-on-rails-passenger-modrails-vs-codeigniter-and-kohana/#comment-219</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Gregoire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 23:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This says nothing about theone glaring problem with rails. Crashes. Many of them. PHP has far fewer of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This says nothing about theone glaring problem with rails. Crashes. Many of them. PHP has far fewer of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Wu</title>
		<link>http://www.beyondcoding.com/2008/05/26/ruby-on-rails-passenger-modrails-vs-codeigniter-and-kohana/#comment-218</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Wu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 20:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Richard: mod_rails is still in its early stage so I wouldn't worry about it too much. :)

@Fredrik: Yes it is unscientific and I am aware of it. I merely provided the results for reference only, just as I did with the previous benchmark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Richard: mod_rails is still in its early stage so I wouldn&#8217;t worry about it too much. :)</p>
<p>@Fredrik: Yes it is unscientific and I am aware of it. I merely provided the results for reference only, just as I did with the previous benchmark.</p>
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